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In regards to other matters, and as others have also pointed out, nationalism requires a state to be national to, which Westeros has known, there's a sort of proto-nationalism in say, the North, Iron Islands and Dorne, but a feudal system by its very nature has a large degree of substitutability. How do you conquer Westeros with three dragons?Įasily, when you consider the divided nature of the realm, their technological inferiority, the fact that dragons are MASSIVE, fly, breath fire and destroy morale. A better point if you want to nitpick is why an entire continent speaks the same tongue. It is a fantasy story, as it is, the examples you choose are invalid. You seem to have an agenda to prove that ASoIaF is unrealistic and silly and doesn't make sense and should be nitpicked. But no, the King kneels and Bob's your uncle. You'd think that would lead to some sense of pride similar to that displayed by the brave but ultimately hopelessly outnumber Scots. Now, the North was able to say that for 8000 years. Not by Alexander the Great, not by Genghis Khan, not by the Russians and not today. It's quite something for the Afghans to say they have NEVER been conquered. Same with the Afghans, who are also from a feudal culture, yet display tremendous solidarity with their land and their unique culture. Instead, the average Westerosi citizen seems to have not a tenth the sense of belonging to their land that the ancient Germannic or Gallic tribes displayed in their neverending rebellions against the Romans, until the barbarians eventually outlasted the Romans. In fact, the taxing nature of such a total war would probably have killed off their dragons even earlier than they eventually did die.Īnd then it would have been all over for them. If the Westerosi were Afghans, and the Dragons were Russian Hind gunships, the Targaryens would still be fighting for control of the land to this day. Yet Martin would have us believe taht the First Men of the North - after 8000 years of becoming one with their land - just shrugged their shoulders and let a foreign king take over. To this day the Scots resent English rule and are in fact at the point of creating a separate Scottish country, like the Republic of Ireland to regain their independence. Martin seems to think people are easily cowed by the basic needs of survival, but many examples around the world show differently. You'd think that if your ancestors have lived in a land for 8000 years you'd have a bit more of a sense of 'this belongs to my people' than to just shrug and accept whatever foreign overlord tries to conquer it and just get back to farming sheep. Gunship helicopters and tanks could not overcome them even though they fought on horseback and died by the thousands. In other words, with a rather narrow, self preserving view of life.Ĭontrast this to the Afghans, for example, who despite living in a semi feudal/tribal society right up to the present day, refused to bow down to the might of the Soviet army. Martin seems to have created them as people who are happy simply if they have a place to sleep out of the rain, some food to fill their bellies and maybe a woman to warm their beds.

I guess part of the answer is the spineless, unpatriotic nature of the average Westerosi citizen. No, because that defeats the purpose of it all.ĭragons are what made Targaryens special, they are what justified their ridiculously arrogant mindset and as another poster pointed out, can be seen as a metaphor for divine rule. The will of the original inhabitants of whatever area you want to take becomes obsolete. The ingenuity of enemies becomes obsolete.

The whole Game of Thrones becomes obsolete. My point is simply that if you want to go with the upper extreme, as seems to be the case here, then rather than give the Targaryens dragons you might as well just give them the magical ability to simply point at any random person/squad/army/nation and have them instantly keel over dead.īasically: Targaryen point, random enemy dies. Anything from a largish lizard that can be slain in one on one combat by a determined hero with a sword, right up to a gigantic flying fortress that can conquer an entire continent without any possibility of resistance. Well, the author can obviously make the dragons as powerful as he wants.

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